BORN SURREY 1874. LIVED IN LONDON AND HULL. HIS FATHER HAD FOUGHT THE GERMANS IN THE 1848 SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN WAR AND WAS DECORATED . HE CAME TO HULL FROM DENMARK 36 YEARS AGO AND ALSO A PROMINENT CORN MERCHANT, ON HULL’S HIGH STREET.
MAJOR THEILMANN WAS A FOUNDER MEMBER OF THE 4TH EYR TERRITORIAL BATTALION, KNOWN AS THE “HULL RIFLES” AND “FIGHTING FOURTHS”. MAJOR THIELMANN WAS PRESIDENT OF THE HULL CORN TRADE ASSOCIATION 1912-1913 AND DIRECTOR OF THE PACIFIC CLUB. THE FAMILY WERE ORIGINALLY FROM DENMARK. HE WAS FLUENT IN GERMAN & ALSO WORKED AS AN EXAMINATION MARKER. WIFE REBECCA GRAHAME THEILMANN LIVED AT 90 WESTBOURNE AVENUE, HULL (1911 CENSUS). HE LEFT £18,000 TO HIS WIFE IN HIS WILL. PROBATE ADDRESS BEING 114 SUNNY BANK HULL. HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO DIE LEADING THE 4TH EYR AT YPRES, ALONG WITH LT/COL SHAW, SHOT BY SNIPER, CAPTAIN BEDE FARREL, SHOT IN CHEST.
PHOTO OF MAJOR THEILMAN IN HDM 30/04/191515.
The brief write up in “Fallen Officers” columns of The Times – 3rd May 1915;- “was the head of the firm Thielmann and Son, corn and seed merchants founded by his father the late Mr J H Thielmann, a Dane who after fighting the Germans in Schleswig-Holstein settled in Hull. Major Thielmann was 41 years of age and a fine linguist. Two years ago he was President of the Hull Corn Trade Association” The Times of 9th June 1909 listed him amongst a number of officers and NCO’s qualified as interpreters – he was qualified in German.
His Orbit in the Regimental Journal:
Major Carl Eric Theilmann was born at Dulwich, 23rd October, 1873, and entered the 1st Volunteer Battalion 21st November, 1900, and was promoted Lieut. in 1902, and Captain on 1st January, 1907. With other officers he transferred to the Territorial Force on its formation in 1908, and was promoted Major on the increase of the establishment after the war broke out, bearing date 13th September, 1914. He held a musketry certificate. and, in addition. had qualified in 1909 as a first class interpreter in German. He took up rifle shooting about 1907 with much success and on several occasions obtained a place in County teams. In civil life Major Theilmann was head of a large firm of corn brokers, was a director of the Hull Pacific Club. and had served his term as President of the Hull Corn Trade Association. He was most deservedly popular with all ranks of the Hull Rifles. and his loss will he much felt. He had been married about 10 years and great sympathy is expressed towards his widow and two young children in their sad loss.
1/4th Battalion – The Northumbrian Division became part of Central Force in Home Defence, tasked with manning the Tyne Defences, so after some days digging trenches in South Holderness 4th East Yorkshires moved to Hummersknott Park, near Darlington to join the York & Durham Brigade. In mid-October it moved again, to Newcastle upon Tyne. It was not until November that the Home Service and unfit men were separated into the 2/4th Battalion, and that battalion’s staff returned to Londesborough Barracks to begin training the recruits
While working on the Tyne Defences, the Northumbrian Division was also undergoing battle training. In April 1915 it was warned for overseas service with the British Expeditionary Force (BEF), and on 16 April its units began to entrain for the embarkation ports. 1/4th East Yorkshires landed at Boulogne the following day.
Second Battle of Ypres – The Northumbrian Division completed its concentration in the Steenvoorde area on 23 April, and went into action the very next day during the Second Battle of Ypres. The York and Durham Brigade went by motor bus to Poperinghe, where they debussed and marched to camp at Vlamertinghe. They were turned out at 01.00 on 24 April and marched to take over trenches astride the Yser Canal, where they came under shellfire at first light, 1/4th East Yorkshires losing their first casualties of the war. During the morning the battalion was shifted again, to a position near Potijze Château, where they dug in again. Meanwhile, the Canadian Division were coming under heavy pressure (the beginning of the Battle of St Julien). Finally, at 15.00 the tired battalion was ordered out to support a counter-attack by the Canadians and the 1/4th Green Howards of the York & Durham Bde (the Canadians were not informed of these two battalions’ involvement). The battalion moved up into a small wood and waited alongside the Canadian artillery under shellfire while the attack developed. Shortly after 17.00 the battalion was ordered to attack towards St Julien and advanced in ‘artillery formation’, with two platoons of D Company in front, led by Lt-Col Shaw. On reaching Bridge House the battalion swung north towards St Julien; it now came under heavy rifle and machine gun fire and was swept by Shrapnel shells and heavy howitzer shells. Eye-witnesses described the tired and hungry battalion behaving ‘as if they were doing an attack practice in peace’. At 950 yards (870 m) and again at 500 yards (460 m) the men opened rifle fire on the enemy, with little apparent effect. Coming upon a road the battalion could advance no further against the hostile fire, and took cover. Lieutenant-Colonel Shaw had been killed by a rifle bullet during the advance, and the CO of the Green Howards took over both battalions. The East Yorkshires were ordered to stay where they were until nightfall; they saw no sign of the Canadians who were supposed to be in St Julien, but their rifle fire combined with the Canadian artillery broke up a German attack from the village, and neither side held it at the end of the day. 1/4th East Yorkshires was permitted to withdraw after dark; in its first action the battalion had lost three officers and 12 other ranks killed, 66 wounded and 17 missing, of whom 10 were known to be wounded. Next morning the 1/4th Bn took over some support trenches in the ‘GHQ Line’, where it was shelled all day, before being withdrawn during the night to march through the ruins of Ypres to a rest camp west of the town. Two days later they went back into the line, supporting 4th Division in a succession of poor trenches under intermittent shellfire. The Battle of St Julien continued for several more days, with the Ypres Salient becoming an increasingly dangerous position. On 2 and 3 May the Northumbrian Division was involved in a general withdrawal to a more defensible line. On 4 May the battalion settled into bivouacs near Steenvoorde, having suffered 33 killed and 58 wounded since 1 May.
